The Vote for the Next Pope Is Also a Referendum on Francis - The New York Times
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Skip to contentSkip to site indexEurope Today’s Paper#masthead-section-label, #masthead-bar-one { display: none }Pope SuccessionThe ConclaveHow Is a Pope Chosen?Potential SuccessorsPapal PoliticsChurch’s Direction at StakeKey TermsAdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTYou have a preview view of this article while we are checking your access. When we have confirmed access, the full article content will load.Supported bySKIP ADVERTISEMENTThe Vote for the Next Pope Is Also a Referendum on FrancisAs cardinals begin a conclave to choose Pope Francis’ successor, they must decide whether to find a pope who follows his path or forges a new one.Listen to this article · 7:40 min Learn moreShare full articlePope Francis in 2022. During his 12-year pontificate, he made global headlines for landmark declarations that encouraged liberals, whether Catholic or secular.Credit...Alberto Pizzoli/Agence France-Presse — Getty ImagesBy Jason Horowitz and Motoko RichReporting from RomeMay 7, 2025, 12:00 a.m. ETThey buried him. They mourned him. And they have gathered to pick his successor. But it’s still all about Pope Francis.More than two weeks after Francis died, the cardinals who will begin voting in the Sistine Chapel on Wednesday to pick the next pope have been signaling whether they want to follow Francis’ lead, turn back or find some compromise between the two.In homilies, public and private conversations, and most of all in remarks to their fellow cardinals in daily meetings behind the Vatican walls, the people who will choose the next pope have been holding what amounts to a referendum on Francis’ legacy. They have also been considering whether they want to perpetuate the so-called “Francis effect,” the idea that a charismatic, inclusive person of moral conscience on the geopolitical stage might draw new followers and lure lapsed Catholics back into the church.“There are various wishes” within the group, said Cardinal Anders Arborelius of Sweden, who has been mentioned as a potential candidate for pope. Some want to elect a pontiff “who can follow in the footsteps of Francis. Some others said, ‘No, no. Not at all.’”There is plenty in Francis’ legacy to fight over. During his 12-year pontificate, he made global headlines for landmark declarations that encouraged liberals, whether Catholic or secular. Of gay priests he said, “Who am I to judge,” and he allowed the blessing of same-sex couples. He raised his voice for migrants, implored world leaders to face a warming climate and criticized what he saw as the excesses of capitalism and the exploitation of the poor.ImageFrancis greeting Syrian refugees upon their arrival in Rome in 2016.Credit...Pool photo by Filippo MonteforteWe are having trouble retrieving the article content.Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings.Thank you for your patience while we verify access. If you are in Reader mode please exit and log into your Times account, or subscribe for all of The Times.Thank you for your patience while we verify access.Already a subscriber? Log in.Want all of The Times? Subscribe.AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTSite IndexSite Information Navigation© 2025 The New York Times CompanyNYTCoContact UsAccessibilityWork with usAdvertiseT Brand StudioYour Ad ChoicesPrivacy PolicyTerms of ServiceTerms of SaleSite MapCanadaInternationalHelpSubscriptionsManage Privacy Preferences
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Cardinal Mauro Piacenza said he found all the outcries for a Francis sequel “sentimental.” Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller of Germany, a conservative who ran the church’s office on doctrine until Francis fired him, said those who wanted “a pope for everybody,” who would continue in Francis’ direction, were generally “the media and all the former opponents against the church — the atheists.”"}],"textAlign":"LEFT"},{"__typename":"Dropzone","adsDesktop":false,"adsDesktopHoldout":false,"adsHybrid":false,"adsMobile":false,"adsMobileHoldout":true,"bad":false,"index":14},{"__typename":"ParagraphBlock","content":[{"__typename":"TextInline","formats":[],"text":"But the conservatives are in the minority, at least among those who will cast their ballots for a pope. Francis had deep support inside the church, particularly among the cardinals of voting age. 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